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		<title>Cillit Bang vs ink</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Inspired by a post on FountainPenNetwork where somebody had exposed a number of different inks to not only water, but bleach, I decided to do something similar with a selection of the black inks that I possess (and also Noodler&#8217;s El Lawrence, which is &#8220;dirty pond algae&#8221; coloured rather than black) some of which claimed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspired by <a href="http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/139762-my-own-ink-torture-test-on-noodlers-inks/">a post on FountainPenNetwork</a> where somebody had exposed a number of different inks to not only water, but bleach, I decided to do something similar with a selection of the black inks that I possess (and also Noodler&#8217;s El Lawrence, which is &#8220;dirty pond algae&#8221; coloured rather than black) some of which claimed to be &#8220;archival&#8221;, &#8220;bulletproof&#8221; and similarly impressive things. Would they turn out to flee at the hint of strong alkalis? To test, I wrote the same things on two sides of a piece of paper, cut the paper in half, put one half in the sink and sprayed it repeatedly with Cillit Bang over a period of fifteen or twenty minutes.</p>


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<p>Bang! And the ink&#8230; well, in general, was not gone, really. Waterman Black and Viva black, neither of which claim to be unusually permanent, <em>were</em> affected. The Waterman Black faded quite a lot and turned blue; it does this when exposed to water as well, though less than that. It has not vanished but has definitely moved from &#8220;readable&#8221; to &#8220;possibly decipherable&#8221;.</p>

<p>The Viva ink I bought in a pack of fifty short international cartridges from a branch of Rymans, for just over a pound. It is made in Slovenia by a company called <a href="http://www.vivapen.com/start.html">Vivapen</a>, and is actually really good ink &#8211; nice dense colour to it, as you can see quite permanent, and for just over 2p a cartridge one can&#8217;t go wrong. (I have a suspicion that they make ink for other companies as well which is rebranded.) It just turned green and faded a bit &#8211; more durable than the Waterman certainly.</p>

<p>The others really didn&#8217;t care in the slightest about being bleached. The two Noodler&#8217;s inks at the bottom were ever so slightly paler at the end; the Sharpie marker had spread slightly on the paper; the Sailor Kiwa-Guro &#8220;nanocarbon&#8221; ink was entirely unaffected. Also note that whatever ink they use to mark the grid on Rhodia pads also didn&#8217;t care.</p>

<p>In fact, really, this was one of the more boring experiments that I have done. Sorry. The only thing that&#8217;s been learnt here is that Waterman Black is not bulletproof but doesn&#8217;t claim to be, and that a Slovenian ink that you&#8217;ve likely never heard of is quite durable. Next time I will try concentrated sulphuric acid or a laser or exposure to Martian polar winds.</p>
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		<title>Ink vs water</title>
		<link>http://daisychase.net/blog/2010/07/27/ink-vs-water/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Going through my loose papers just now I noticed a little comparison of the water-related durability of some assorted inks that I performed a while ago. With a few different pens, I write on a piece of Rhodia notepaper, waited a while for the inks to dry (a couple of hours I think) then cut [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going through my loose papers just now I noticed a little comparison of the water-related durability of some assorted inks that I performed a while ago. With a few different pens, I write on a piece of Rhodia notepaper, waited a while for the inks to dry (a couple of hours I think) then cut that page into three columns. The left hand column was not exposed to water at all. The middle was dipped into water, but then removed quickly; the right column was dipped in and enthusiastically slooshed about. Here are the results:</p>

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<p>In order, we have:</p>

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<li><p><em>Diamine Grey</em>. Slightly water-resistant, in that it is visible afterwards and almost readable, but not pretty.</p></li>
<li><p><em>Sailor Sei-Boku</em> &#8211; the greenish blue &#8220;nanocarbon&#8221; Sailor ink. As befits an ink by a company called &#8220;Sailor&#8221; this ink remains identical no matter how much it is dunked into water. Sei-Boku is termed &#8220;archival quality&#8221; so really should be able to cope with being dunked in a sink.</p></li>
<li><p><em>Waterman South Seas Blue</em>, which is really a turquoise. Here we see the difference between a sailor and the sea. South Seas Blue, when exposed to water, is overjoyed and leaps off the page in ecstasy, to join its brother and sister molecules.</p></li>
<li><p>A <em>black Sharpie marker</em> which I happened to have lying around. No nonsense here. Water? Why should it care about water? Try bleach or napalm to erase this sort of thing.</p></li>
<li><p><em>Diamine Monaco Red</em> which surprised me a little (though Diamine inks are not noted for water resistance generally). Monaco Red just vanishes with barely a trace. I&#8217;ll grant that that example of Monaco Red was likely contaminated with a lot of J Herbin Rouge Caroubier, since it normally dries to a brownish &#8220;there&#8217;s been a murder sir&#8221; colour, but even so&#8230; evidence has been eradicated.</p></li>
<li><p>And then I had run out of inked pens so decided to try a pencil, specifically <em>a 3B lead in a Caran d&#8217;Ache clutch pencil</em>. Pencils have something of a reputation (in my mind anyway) for being impermanent, given that they can be erased with a piece of rubber, but graphite particles embedded into the surface layer of paper are apparently entirely non-bothered by the presence of water.</p></li>
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